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How are Hinduism and Sikhism related, considering they both originated in Punjab, India?

Last Updated: 20.06.2025 04:12

How are Hinduism and Sikhism related, considering they both originated in Punjab, India?

There, where millions of Krishnas stand with hands folded,

ਓਛੀ ਭਗਤਿ ਕੈਸੇ ਉਤਰਸਿ ਪਾਰੀ ॥੪॥

ਮਰਨੁ ਭਇਆ ਮਗਹਰ ਕੀ ਬਾਸੀ ॥੩॥

What is a good comeback for when someone calls you flat?

ਅਬ ਕਹੁ ਰਾਮ ਕਵਨ ਗਤਿ ਮੋਰੀ ॥

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Wherever I go, I find water and stones.

Why cant I stop thinking about counsellor between sessions?

Sain (a barber)

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The Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, is heaven. ||4||10||

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Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

ਏਕ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰ ਲੇ ਰਿਦੈ ਨਮਸਕਾਰਉ ॥੩॥

Sikhism is a NIRGUN path descending from the Sant Sampraday of Ramanandacharya and traces its ideas to VEDANTA!

Why doesn't California have the tools, people, means to put out these fires even though they know there will be fires every year?

ਸੋ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਬਤਾਇਓ ਗੁਰ ਮਨ ਹੀ ਮਾਹਿ ॥੧॥

Actually, this part of the Ang 326 is widely used by McSikhs to show that Sikhism considers Hindu pilgrimages as useless and thus drives home the point again that the “religion” has got NOTHING to do with Hinduism.

I would go there, only if the Lord were not here. ||2||

Atheists claim that Earth is 10 billion years old, yet there are no fossils that old. What do you have to say for yourselves for lying?

The divergence of Kabir’s views from Vedanta is seen in the fact that he fully opposed religious symbolism of ALL KINDS and not just IDOLS.

I am a sacrifice to You, O my True Guru.

Ravidas (a chamar shoemaker)

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Kabeer: O worthless mortal, do not lose the Naam, the Name of the Lord.

ਤਬ ਲਗੁ ਹੋਇ ਨਹੀ ਚਰਨ ਨਿਵਾਸੁ ॥੩॥

ਜਬ ਲਗੁ ਮਨਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠ ਕੀ ਆਸ ॥

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We can understand that Kabir despite being in favor of formless worship was very much embedded in the Dharmik fold but always preached in the spirit of the transcendental nature of Brahman to the point that HE LOST THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN HINDU AND MUSLIM.

Kabir, Ravidas and ultimately the NINE SIKH GURUS are a product of this very Sant Sampraday founded by Ramanandacharya!

He does not dwell at the Lord's Feet. ||3||

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Hari is in the East, Allah is in the West.

How can people understand You, when they are entranced by Maya? ||1|| Pause ||

I wasted my whole life in the city of Shiva;

What was the worst spanking you got growing up?

My consciousness does not go out wandering. My mind has become crippled. ||1|| Pause ||

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 326

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We can see that great saints like Kabir and Ravidas etc… descended from the Ramananda sampradaya which is still the largest ascetic order in India.

I went to God's place, and worshipped Him there.

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

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Where millions of Shivas are lost in contemplation, where millions of Indras dwell in the sky,

That God showed me the Guru, within my own mind. ||1||

I do not make pilgrimages to Mecca, nor do I worship at Hindu sacred shrines.

Recklessly they display boundless pride while explaining their own aims, they kill cows.

Meeting with the Guru, my Spiritual Teacher, I realize God, my Lord and Master. ||5||3||

ਏਕ ਦਿਵਸ ਮਨ ਭਈ ਉਮੰਗ ॥

I serve the One Lord, and not any other. ||2||

Ramarchan Paddati gives more info about his teachings.

— Kabir, Ramaini 1, Translated by David Lorenzen

The views of Kabir are very much in parallel to the Advaita philosophy and it is obvious that as the disciple of Ramanandacharya he will carry forward with his chosen NIRGUN BHAKTI.

ਕਤ ਜਾਈਐ ਰੇ ਘਰ ਲਾਗੋ ਰੰਗੁ ॥

Gauree, Kabeer Jee, Panch-Padas:

Says Kabeer, unto whom should I tell this?

How can they kill the mother, whose milk they drink like that of a wet nurse?

Now here in this verse

Where the demi-gods and the munis are unnumbered, where millions of Saraswatis, goddess of music play the vina,

One day, a desire welled up in my mind.

I do not perform Hindu worship services, nor do I offer the Muslim prayers.

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

Kaashi and Magahar - I consider them the same.

ਸਗਲ ਜਨਮੁ ਸਿਵ ਪੁਰੀ ਗਵਾਇਆ ॥

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With inadequate devotion, how can anyone swim across? ||4||

Ramanandacharya’s teachings were centered on pure and personal connection with the God Rama and didn’t believe in any kind of formal ritualism. He used the common vernacular language instead of Sanskrit so that everyone could understand.

There is a reason why I mention ROOTED and thus NOT implying that it belongs to one of the numerous sects in Sanatana Dharma like Shaivism, Vaishnavism, Shaktism, Smartism etc…

Now that my time to die has come, I have come to dwell at Magahar! ||3||

One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:

Here ਰਾਮੈ is Rama and not just lord. Kabir died chanting the name of Rama DESPITE him not finding any result of penances done in holy cities in his previous birth. Another example to show how much Kabir valued personal devotion to Rama in his own NIRGUN style.

Kabir (a weaver)

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹ ਕਹੀਐ ਕਾਹਿ ॥

All the men and women of the world are His living forms.

ਤੂ ਪੂਰਿ ਰਹਿਓ ਹੈ ਸਭ ਸਮਾਨ ॥

ਪੂਰਬ ਜਨਮ ਹਉ ਤਪ ਕਾ ਹੀਨਾ ॥੧॥

As mentioned above Guru Arjan Dev was talking from the perspective Sant Kabir whose views we have discussed much earlier here. We know that Sant Kabir continuing in the Ramanandi Sampradaya went further away from the mainstream ritualistic Hinduism and was journeying more towards a SEAMLESS Dharma.

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ ॥੫॥੧੫॥

ਬ੍ਰਹਮ is Brahm i.e the Brahman of vedanta but it gets interpreted as an all-pervading lord god.

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

ਪੂਜਾ ਕਰਉ ਨ ਨਿਵਾਜ ਗੁਜਾਰਉ ॥

ਗੁਰ ਪੀਰ ਮਿਲਿ ਖੁਦਿ ਖਸਮੁ ਪਛਾਨਾ ॥੫॥੩॥

Because in my previous life, I did not practice penance and intense meditation. ||1||

But we have actually seen how much Kabir is also rooted in the Vedantic concept of “supreme realization” but in a non-mainstream path.

Kabir is the child of Allah and of Ram: He is my Guru, He is my Pir.

Bhakti movement began in South (Tamil Nadu to be precise) and slowly spread to Northern parts of India. This movement was extremely popular because of its simple fundamentals which could be understood by even commonfolk. Vaishnavism, Shaivism etc… were already connecting with commonfolk from a long time and this Bhakti movement reinforced it by making the devotee feel a personal connection with the deity.

The Word of the Guru's Shabad eradicates the karma of millions of past actions. ||3||1||

I have searched through all the Vedas and the Puraanas.

The young and the old drink milk pudding, but these fools eat the cow's body.

ਗਉੜੀ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ ਪੰਚਪਦੇ ॥

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

That Kabeer died chanting the Lord's Name. ||5||15||

Ramanandacharya was a 14th-century Hindu Vaishnava devotional poet saint who amalgamated Advaita with Vaishnava Bhakti. He was the pioneer in validating NIRGUN and SAGUN Bhakti as parallel paths.

ਕਹੁ ਗੁਰ ਗਜ ਸਿਵ ਸਭੁ ਕੋ ਜਾਨੈ ॥

NOW…

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

Says Kabeer, the Guru and Ganaysha and Shiva all know

Ramananda accepted disciples without discriminating against anyone by gender, class or caste and they included even people from humble origins like

You are totally pervading and permeating in all.

For him Dharma was beyond everything physical including the desire for heaven because was fully into the NIRGUN . The last verse shows that according to him the company of the enlightened Sadhus is heaven which is again a typical teaching of Sanatana Dharma.

If God be within the mosque, then to whom does this world belong?

Let's look at the views of Sant Kabir

Again we see that the originator of this Sant Sampraday himself talks about Brahman even in Gurbani.

Sant Kabir was staunchly against cow slaughter.

There is my Lord self-revealed, and the scent of sandal and flowers dwells in those deeps.

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਜੀ ਘਰੁ ੧

ਜਿਨਿ ਸਕਲ ਬਿਕਲ ਭ੍ਰਮ ਕਾਟੇ ਮੋਰ ॥

Now tell me, Lord, what will my condition be?

then who is there to know what happens without?

These morons know nothing, they wander about in ignorance,

I am like a fish out of water,

ਅਲਹ ਰਾਮ ਕੇ ਪਿੰਡੁ ਪਰਾਨ ॥੪॥

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

Where should I go? My home is filled with bliss.

ਘਸਿ ਚੰਦਨ ਚੋਆ ਬਹੁ ਸੁਗੰਧ ॥

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ

The Sant Sampraday of Sikh panth integrates the warrior spirit of the Nihangs and Khalsa, the service of Seva panth and the renunciation of Udasi/Nirmala saints.

Let’s look at the most used verse by McSikhs to show that Sikhs are neither Hindus nor Muslims.

— Kabir, II.57, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

Where millions of Vishnus bow their heads, where millions of Brahmas are reading the Vedas,

Raamaanand Jee, First House:

To him who is high-minded, these teachings will be illuminating.

So in the same spirit Kabir finds pilgrimages to holy cities futile as his mind is fixated on Rama!

From Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 1195

For many years, I practiced penance and intense meditation at Kaashi;

Look within your heart, for there you will find both Karim and Ram;

ਪੂਜਨ ਚਾਲੀ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਠਾਇ ॥

Sadhna (a Muslim butcher) and

ਤਜੀ ਲੇ ਬਨਾਰਸ ਮਤਿ ਭਈ ਥੋਰੀ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

Says Kabeer, this is what I say:

The influence of Kabir is significant on Sikhism. The following Bani from Ang 1136 is attributed to GURU ARJAN DEV but if you observe at the end you can see that he was talking in the spirit of Sant Kabir.

ਮਰਤੀ ਬਾਰ ਮਗਹਰਿ ਉਠਿ ਆਇਆ ॥੨॥

From where did the word Maya come? Isn’t it a typical Vedantic concept discussed profoundly in Advaita? It definitely isn’t a concept pioneered by Kabir or even his teacher Ramanandacharya! It is ultimately from Sanatana Dharma!

Let’s see what Gurbani has about Ramanandacharya’s views.

You have cut through all my confusion and doubt.

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Sriraag / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 92

He who has highest Bhakti of Deva (God), just like his Deva, so for his Guru (teacher),

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We have searched the turaki Dharam (Turk's religion, Islam), these teachers throw many thunderbolts,

I left Benares - I had little common sense. ||1|| Pause ||

ਹਜ ਕਾਬੈ ਜਾਉ ਨ ਤੀਰਥ ਪੂਜਾ ॥

At the time of my death, I moved to Magahar. ||2||

ਬਹੁਤੁ ਬਰਸ ਤਪੁ ਕੀਆ ਕਾਸੀ ॥

ਏਕੋ ਸੇਵੀ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਦੂਜਾ ॥੨॥

I ground up sandalwood, along with several fragrant oils.

As long as the mind is filled with the desire for heaven,

My body and breath of life belong to Allah - to Raam - the God of both. ||4||

There the streams of light flow in all directions, few are the men who can cross to that shore!

ਕਬੀਰ ਨਿਰਗੁਣ ਨਾਮ ਨ ਰੋਸੁ ॥

ਜਹਾ ਜਾਈਐ ਤਹ ਜਲ ਪਖਾਨ ॥

ਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਸਬਦੁ ਕਾਟੈ ਕੋਟਿ ਕਰਮ ॥੩॥੧॥

If Ram be within the image which you find upon your pilgrimage,

ਬੇਦ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਸਭ ਦੇਖੇ ਜੋਇ ॥

Shvetashvatara Upanishad (6.23)

ਸਾਧਸੰਗਤਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠੈ ਆਹਿ ॥੪॥੧੦॥

— Kabir, III.2, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

For a superficial McSikh who is interested only in separation and not enlightenment the views of Kabir can be easily shown as a denouncement of Hindu practices.

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ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਮੈ ਬਲਿਹਾਰੀ ਤੋਰ ॥

यस्य देवे परा भक्तिः यथा देवे तथा गुरौ । तस्यैते कथिता ह्यर्थाः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मनः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मन इति ।

Where spring, the lord of seasons reigneth, there the unstruck music sounds of itself,

Sikhism is fundamentally rooted in BHAKTI tradition and thus ultimately in Sanatana Dharma. There is no doubt about it despite what modern McSikh acrobatics try to claim otherwise

He accepted even women (Sursuri and Padywati) as disciples. Bhagat Pipa and Dhanna were Rajput and Jat who were also his disciples.

I have taken the One Formless Lord into my heart; I humbly worship Him there. ||3||

ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥

ਕਾਸੀ ਮਗਹਰ ਸਮ ਬੀਚਾਰੀ ॥

CONCLUSION:

Here ਨਿਰਗੁਣ is Nirgun and not just lord. This is just another example to show that Kabir himself continued in the NIRGUN BHAKTI path.

ਮੇਰਾ ਚਿਤੁ ਨ ਚਲੈ ਮਨੁ ਭਇਓ ਪੰਗੁ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹੁ ਕੀਆ ਵਖਾਨਾ ॥

ਕੈਸੇ ਬੂਝੈ ਜਬ ਮੋਹਿਆ ਹੈ ਮਾਇਆ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

Without looking into one's heart, how can one reach paradise?

Guru Nanak (right) and Bhai Mardana (foreground) with Bhagat Kabir (left). This painting is found in the B-40 Janamsakhi, written and painted in 1733. The painting was made by Alam Chand Raj

ਊਹਾਂ ਤਉ ਜਾਈਐ ਜਉ ਈਹਾਂ ਨ ਹੋਇ ॥੨॥

ਜਿਉ ਜਲ ਛੋਡਿ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਭਇਓ ਮੀਨਾ ॥